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   Who is the best Japanese director outside of the big three (Kurosawa Akira, Ozu, and Mizoguchi)?


   Chinky Levenstein


   Is that even a question ?
   The problem with Kobayashi is his oeuvre is too small.
   Harakiri, Kwaidan, and The Human Condition are three of three greatest films ever made, but there are other Japanese directors who had more than three masterpieces.
   Anno
   Kurosowa by far.
   Best living Japanese director is Sion Sono


   cartoons don't count
   Kurosawa Kiyoshi
   He made Shin Godzilla though
   Why do some people in Japan have heads that look as if they're swollen or have tumors inside them?


   I wouldn't say that other mainstream Japanese directors have had three movies equal to Kobayashi's three best.
   the other Kurosawa: Kiyoshi Kurosawa
   Shinobu Yaguchi, for sure. Feel good kino, mood-wise a fucking asian Wes Anderson.
   Miwa Nishikawa is pretty good too, albeit very moody.
   Koreeda
   A little bit of snow on your head is cute, snow on your eyelashes with sickly pale skin is FUCKING CREEPY
   Teshigahara
   Koreeda
   Sono
   Miike


   Iwai



   How is that contrarian?
   None of his live action work puts him in the same conversation as the greats


   Okay recommend me the best movies of each directors mentioned itt. Want to marathon some japkino this weekend.


   this
   Still Walking
   Nobody Knows
   After the Storm
   Our Little Sister
   Hanna
   fucking top tier kinos no one else working comes close, miss me with that sono miike iwai shit
   correct


   Kobayashi Masaki or Ichikawa Kon


   Kitano


   If Kon made his movies live action, he would be the best.


   Koreeda is awful, middle-of-road fare that appeals to the bougie middle class international crowd
   Koreeda - Still Walking
   Kobayashi - Harakiri
   Teshigahara - Woman in the Dunes
   Anno - End of Evangelion (requires watching 21 episodes beforehand though)
   Sono - Love Exposure
   Kitano - Hana-bi


   Kon and contemporary Japanese cinema is general is cultural fetishisation convince yourself it's good tier and you will look back and laugh at how much of a gullible pleb you were holding him and it in such high regard.
   Kon is a pleb filter.
   Not liking Kon anymore > Liking Kon > Never liking Kon
   Miike - Audition
   Ichikawa - Revenge of a Kabuki Actor (out this week on Criterion)
   The other Kurosawa - Cure
   You're right about some of his films, but Still Walking is a genuine masterpiece


   Never having watched Kon in the first place because anime is for children > Not liking Kon anymore > Liking Kon > Never liking Kon
   There are no good japanese directors nowadays, except Miyazaki, but he does animated movies and that's probably not what you're asking about.
   The japanese really aren't very good at film making
   The last good japanese language live action film i have seen is Like Someone In Love by Iranian director Abbas Kiarostami but that was a 7/10 at best

heree

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:47:19 No.95025664▶

   Alain Renais
   http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZwrCOXLrIA [Embed]

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:49:59 No.95025735▶>>95025808 >>95025831 File: pepe rly.jpg (17 KB, 250x238) 17 KB

   >>95025611
   >There are no good japanese directors nowadays, except Miyazaki

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:50:42 No.95025760▶

   Sono

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:52:13 No.95025808▶>>95025867 >>95026597

   >>95025735
   What's your problem?
   The japanese are bad at film making.
   I'm not claiming Miyazaki is some kind of uber god but he makes the only watchable japanese films these days

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:52:55 No.95025831▶>>95025867

   >>95025735
   It's true. All underacting. Repetitive depressing or mental illness storylines. Non diverse casting. Subpar music. Cinematography is the only thing that is good

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:52:58 No.95025833▶>>95025913

   Kawase is the only choice. All others are reddit tier

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:53:48 No.95025867▶>>95025902

   >>95025808
   >>95025831
   watch more films
   >Non diverse casting
   Jesus H. Christ, I hope this is bait

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:54:00 No.95025877▶

   Masao Adachi

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:54:44 No.95025902▶>>95026007 >>95026107

   >>95025867
   I doubt you even know who Kiarostami is you pleb. The japs suck at film. Deal with it, weeb.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:54:47 No.95025908▶ File: Scorpion.png (2.14 MB, 1920x1090) 2.14 MB

   >>95025144
   Stole mine.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:55:00 No.95025913▶

   >>95025833
   Kawase is the same as Koreeda.
   Middle-blow schlock for gaijin.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:55:14 No.95025921▶>>95026042

   I'd say "Beat" Takeshi Kitano. He's not some auteur making mastepieces but on the whole his filmography is highly entertaining.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:57:46 No.95026007▶>>95026107

   >>95025902
   Bitch, I've seen Kiarostami's entire oeuvre.
   I bet you haven't even seen a single Iranian film from another director.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)03:58:48 No.95026042▶

   >>95025921
   Fantastic, idiosyncratic actor; okay filmmaker.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:00:22 No.95026100▶>>95026380

   Takashi Miike by a long shot.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:00:36 No.95026107▶>>95026240

   >>95025902
   >>95026007
   "Psh I bet you don't even know _____"
   You're both embarrassing.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:04:25 No.95026240▶

   >>95026107
   your mom gay

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:08:30 No.95026380▶>>95027254

   >>95026100
   tarantino get off the internet

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:10:07 No.95026431▶>>95026592

   >ctrl+f "Seijun Suzuki"
   >0 results
   This board is full of fucking pseuds.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:12:47 No.95026506▶>>95026566 >>95026623 File: pc master race.jpg (140 KB, 933x1146) 140 KB

   >ctrl + f
   >type "kim ki duk"
   >no results 
   the absolute state of /tv/

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:13:47 No.95026532▶ File: 20180222_211309.png (124 KB, 1010x802) 124 KB

   >>95025008
   Our guy

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:15:03 No.95026566▶>>95026623

   >>95026506
   He's vietnamese anon...

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:15:11 No.95026576▶

   who bitch this be who this is?

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:15:14 No.95026578▶ File: takeshi-kitano.jpg (60 KB, 786x442) 60 KB

   *enters the arena*

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:15:41 No.95026592▶ File: suzuki-seijun-002-hands-w(...).jpg (66 KB, 500x590) 66 KB

   >>95026431
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   Where's my stiiiiccckkyyyy OOOooooOoOOOoOooOoOooOOooOoOOoOOOO

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:15:50 No.95026597▶>>95026696

   >>95025808
   >The japanese are bad at film making.
   This but unironically. I have watched a LOT of Japanese festival films and I'm just sick of them. They are not even near the same level as American or other cinema. The main issue is that the standard for performance is so low. It's easier to discount this watching films in other languages, but it's a serious issue nonetheless. Japanese actors are painfully bad. I tried to watch 'I Wish' the other day, and I just had to stop, because the performances from the adults were so terrible. Aesthetically, Japanese films are stuck in the 90s. A film like Harmonium does not look at all modern, nor did 'I Wish'. It's like Japanese culturally is full of dated sensibilities. The storytelling is often melodramatic, romantic relationships are almost always immaculate, and unbelievable. They pacing is almost always slow and confused, appealing if at all from anthropological intrigue rather than artistic merit or emotional impact. Genre films like Love Exposure and Kitano films have all the same issues, and more.
   I am scared to rewatch Still Walking and some other rare modern Japanese films that i loved for fear that I will realise their mediocrity.
   I think it's easy to understand WHY Japanese film-making is so bad, when you consider how conservative their society is, what value activities and professions have and how ultimately together and harmonious it works out to be. Their conservative society stifles artistic expression and simultaneously their social cohesion, high standard of living and reasonably interesting mainstream culture makes counter-culture movements redundant.
   Japanese films are a meme that you will grow out of. They are interesting as cultural and anthropolgical studies, but they are not good. Bear this in mind when you watch Japanese movies. You are being memed.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:16:42 No.95026623▶

   >>95026506
   >>95026566
   He's South Korean, though...

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:17:58 No.95026660▶>>95026766 >>95026888

   >>95024531 (OP)
   I have to admit, you're question got me thinking more than I expected, OP.
   If it's output you're looking for, then maybe Miike? He's like Godard, he just keeps churning out movies and each of them is different and weirder than the last.
   To keep it in Miike's generation, what about Kiyoshi Kurosawa who has made at least two masterpieces with Kairo and Cure. Sion Sono has made some batshit movies.
   But what about the "new wave"? Tokyo Drifter might be the best movie made after Ozu, Kurosawa, and Mizoguchi had made their best movies. The Human Condition trilogy should probably be enough to give Kobayashi a nod.
   And then, what to do about anime? Couldn't the argument be made that someone like Miyazaki or Satoshi Kon has been the most significant feature in Japanese cinema since the turn of the millennium?
   Also, what to do about the trash? Where does Toho's collective that made the Godzilla movies fall? The argument could be made for horrors like Ringu, Ju-On, Dark Water, Kuroneko, Kwaidan, etc. Or trashy samurai movies like Hara-Kiri, where does that fit? Or Ichikawa's documentaries and kabuki films?
   It's good food for thought

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:19:17 No.95026696▶ File: film criticism brain meme.png (879 KB, 856x1204) 879 KB

   >>95026597
   Expand your mind, embryo. You are stuck in an r/truefilm mentality.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:20:03 No.95026722▶

   Seijun Suzuki or Sion Sono

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:20:39 No.95026741▶ File: 852.png (107 KB, 680x448) 107 KB

   >>95024531 (OP)

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:21:14 No.95026764▶>>95026815 File: Apichatpong Weerasethakul.jpg (51 KB, 960x758) 51 KB

   >makes your rice country look amatuerish and plebian

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:21:19 No.95026766▶>>95026794 >>95026824 File: azn snow gf.jpg (545 KB, 1080x1080) 545 KB

   >>95026660
   Great post, thanks for actually taking the time to make a meaningful contribution :)

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:22:14 No.95026792▶

   >>95025373
   You speaking like a nigger makes me assume your taste is garbage

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:22:23 No.95026794▶>>95026867 File: Ohits+your+comp+_f6d585c3(...).jpg (68 KB, 655x509) 68 KB

   >>95026766

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:23:02 No.95026815▶

   >>95026764
   >ywn pound joe's boipucci while he whispers tales of ghosts and spirits in your ear

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:23:27 No.95026824▶

   >>95026766
   revolting snaggletooth

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:24:00 No.95026840▶

   >>95025429
   me too anon me too

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:24:18 No.95026852▶>>95026895 >>95026912

   Nagisa Oshima

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:24:49 No.95026867▶ File: apu apu.jpg (10 KB, 316x160) 10 KB

   >>95026794
   we're gonna make it fren

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:25:36 No.95026888▶

   >>95026660
   Koike is way better than Memezaki and Kon, at least he knows that the plot is not as important as a dinamic animation.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:25:51 No.95026895▶ File: rampling chimp.jpg (93 KB, 930x578) 93 KB

   >>95026852
   OP here
   This is the senpai I had in mind ;)

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:25:50 No.95026896▶

   >>95024531 (OP)
   I'd french kiss that slut all day long

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:26:11 No.95026912▶

   >>95026852
   finally!

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:27:34 No.95026959▶>>95027136 File: SailorIkuhara.jpg (31 KB, 315x700) 31 KB

   >>95025008
   Yes, yes it is.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:32:39 No.95027136▶

   >>95026959
   ...what;s going on in this picture

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:36:31 No.95027254▶>>95027711

   >>95026380
   ew i fucking hate Tarantino. have you even seen Miike's drama or horror films you pleb? The Bird People in China is probably the best Japanese film ever made.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)04:50:05 No.95027711▶>>95028648 >>95029877

   >>95027254
   >Hating Tarantino
   You want to know how I know you're a contrarian?

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)05:19:31 No.95028648▶

   >>95027711
   >Liking Tarantino
   You want to know how I know you're fresh off the boat from r*ddit?

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)06:03:23 No.95029877▶

   >>95027711
   The most you can say about Tarantino is that he made some fun movies back in the 90s. I don't think it's contrarian to dislike Tarantino, he definitely has more bad movies than good.

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)06:25:44 No.95030441▶

   Shinya Tsukamoto

>> Anonymous 02/23/18(Fri)06:39:51 No.95030802▶

   >>95024531 (OP)
   >COLD MISERABLE SNOWY CHINK
   THIS IS TRUEST JAPAN